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“Having completed courses on the New Testament already I was attracted to this course as a way to better understand some of the major figures in more depth. The course permitted me to do this and the Professor delivered a superb series of lectures on each of the figures covered. She gave a good overview and context for each and was very balanced and fair in summarising the various academic/scholarly interpretations regarding each figure as well as sharing her own view and supporting this with argument and evidence. The Professor delivers each lecture at a fast clip and is clearly on top of her game and one needs to be focused to keep pace at times! Overall a superb course that wonderfully compliments others on the New Testament. Would love to have further courses from this Professor perhaps a re-issue of her Great Figures of the Old Testament.”
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“I am so frustrated that I feel like pulling my hair out. I have had this course for 3 years, and each time I take it out, about twice a year, I have to remind myself why I have never finished it. Even though I want the information and love my Bible… Her delivery is like a reading of a grocery list, no stopping, no breath, no time to take in anything…like she is telling us to listen and take notes as she is running a race , each sentence spoke last is lost by the rapidity of the next. I sense there is a great deal I could learn from this course, and that is what causes my frustration. I can’t believe she gets called back to speak if this is how she does it all the time…either have to torture myself by listening to this, no way of slowing it down…or sending it back.”
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INTERVIEW WITH PROFESSOR AMY-JILL LEVINE BY PETER MENKIN
- There is a contemporary story of Mary Magdalene being lover or wife of Jesus. Do you find these popular stories of any kind of merit worth study? Are the current stories of Jesus frivolous and detract from his stature and teachings, let alone status as God? I am thinking of the news reports of Jesus being married to Mary Magdelene.
- Interest in new stories of Jesus’ personal life show our own culture’s fascination with him. The verdict on the recent fragment purporting that Jesus is married is still out; scholars have yet to reach consensus on whether the text is authentic or a forgery. If it is authentic, it tells us nothing about the Jesus of history, but it does tell us something about how one later writer retold his story.
- Do you think your special study of gender gives you an additional understanding of women in the Bible? I thought you gave a fuller view of the actions of women, as in Mary’s letting down her hair to wipe Jesus’ feet. My question is more about the role of women and if you find your education and study of gender makes for a fuller explanation of women’s roles in the Bible. This includes a woman’s reading of the Bible. Will you give us an examples?
- A number of Christian readers presume that first-century Judaism epitomized misogyny, and that Jesus invented feminism. This view incorrectly and negatively stereotypes Judaism. The Gospels, as well as other Jewish sources of antiquity, show Jewish women owning their own homes, running businesses, appearing in synagogues and the Jerusalem Temple, having freedom of travel, and having access to their own funds. Women followed Jesus for the same reasons that men did. However, we find that most of the women, and men, who followed him did so without spousal accompaniment. Thus, it is likely that the initial movement had a strong element of celibacy.
- Women appear throughout the biblical text, from the first chapter of Genesis to the Book of Revelation. To ignore biblical women is to ignore many of the Bible’s most profound stories. Women appear as prophets and leaders, wives and mothers, sages and sirens, deacons and apostles.
- Are you lecturing outside your work at Vanderbilt University where you teach? Talk to us some about your lecture work at other schools, how those lectures are greeted, and especially their subject matter. This includes your lectures at Cambridge, which I believe are relatively new for you?
- Subjects of the talks range from biblical material to the intersection of religion, gender and sexuality, to Jewish-Christian relations, including discussions of the Middle East.
- I lecture out of town on average of once a week. The sponsors are colleges and universities, churches and synagogues. This year, along with numerous programs in the US and Canada, I shall be in London in June, Australia in July-August, Birmingham in November-December, and Manchester this coming April. I also hold an affiliated faculty position at the Woolf Institute, Centre for the Study of Jewish-Christian Relations, at Cambridge.
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- Along with “Introduction to the Old Testament” (which I wanted to call “Introduction to the Old Testament/Tanakh”), I have done “Great Figures of the Old Testament” and “Great Figures of the New Testament.” The invitation is open to do another series; the problem for me is finding the time to prepare the lectures. The preparation is a joy – I find the material both fascinating and challenging — but a time-consuming one.
- The Teaching Company invited me to participate in their programs. The only caveats they gave me, before issuing the contract, was that they did not want me to be quite so feminist, and they did not want me to be quite so funny. Whether I adhered to these strictures would be up to Teaching Company clients to determine.
- It has been a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Now as we come to the end of this series of questions, talk about what we may have missed. That is, have you anything you would like to add?
The Bible is an extraordinary collection of works that are open to multiple interpretations. It has been used far too often as a rock thrown to do damage: to condemn people of differing religious beliefs; to promote sexism, homophobia, and racism; to endorse complacency. It is better read as a rock on which one can stand in order to celebrate diverse beliefs; to honor all people as created in the image and likeness of the divine; to promote both love of neighbor and love of stranger and to teach us to do justice, love kindness, and walk humbly.
THE REVIEW ITSELF OF PROFESSOR AMY-JILL LEVINE’S COURSE ON GREAT FIGURES OF THE NEW TESTAMENT BY PETER MENKIN
The Scope of the lecture on John the Baptist is described by Professor Levine in the Study Guide this way. It gives a flavor of the completeness of each of the 24 half hour lectures in this series about The Great Figures in the New Testament. I listened to the entire series and these notes, brief as they are, comment on the Professor’s style and her delivery of the lectures themselves. In this way you might find some ways to decide if you, too, want to view the DVD or hear the streaming media to get the full picture in this remarkable and excellent set of lectures. I enjoyed them very much. Now the notes on John the Baptist:
John, called “Baptist” because he dipped (Gk: baptizw) people in
the Jordan River as a sign that they had repented from their sins,
appears in the Gospels and the writings of the Jewish historian
Josephus. The gaps and varying emphases in these historical
records, coupled with an appreciation for how John’s story is
presented from different perspectives, offer the ideal opportunity
to explore the means by which scholars of the New Testament
address questions of history. This lecture looks at the story of
John’s miraculous and, indeed, humorous birth; his connection to
the Prophet Elijah; his possible associations not only with the
Qumran community and, thus, the Dead Sea Scrolls but also with
other charismatic religious leaders of the early first century C.E.;
the various descriptions of his own message in light of both
political and religious import; his remarkably unclear relationship
to Jesus; and the different versions of his beheading at the
command of Herod Antipas. We conclude with a brief review of
how the Baptist has fared at the hands of theologians and artists,
playwrights and filmmakers.
Professor Levine has the good sense to start at the beginning. So shall I.
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Though the Professor does not follow the Sunday school line as I remember it, I can follow her rendition without too much trouble. But I suggest that as she speaks you keep the outline close at hand anyway. Not because of what I say about her not following my own Sunday school version, but that her rendition is all the richer for it. At least it was for me. My Assistant Linda, who from time to time, listened to these lectures along with me and is something of a Bible buff, that is has been going to Bible study on a regular basis for many years in various groups on a regular basis, had no trouble following the Professor. She referred to the Course Outline along the way not at all. So much for who knows more about the Bible, the assistant or the writer. But really, this is not a true gauge of Bible knowledge. This is really a matter of paying attention and getting used to the way Professor Levine has of making her excellent Biblical presentation. Remember, she is a Bible scholar and teaches in the Divinity School at Vanderbilt University. No small matter.
I think a great strength of her presentation is her taste for and appreciation of story. I want to add that remark in these notes before I forget making the remark.
To be a Prophet in the first Century was to risk one’s life, so was the fate of John the Baptist. He risked his life and lost it. Professor Levine makes an instructional statement that is itself a kind of prophecy after the fact. Or to make it more a statement in the present, she states a truism of the Bible. More, though, she tells the story of the why his prophecy, what his prophecy consisted of, and the debauchery of the era that was his to observe as witness. That alone was enough to cause lose John the Baptist to lose his head. So she says. The Professor gets the story, as was mentioned earlier. At least she emphasizes the story line in this section. That is the more sophisticated way than teaching at an abstract level. She is a brilliant lecturer in this section and in all of them.
For the traditional believer, this section on Mary seems provocative. But it covers a lot of ground in myth, discussion, and controversy and if you ask me borders on a kind of look at gossip when it comes to the story of Mary (The Virgin Mary). These Study Guide notes on the Scope will introduce you to the general thrust of the lecture:
Unwed mother or Mother goddess, Mary the mother of Jesus
inspires loyalty even as she provokes controversy. This lecture
addresses those elements of her life and legend that continue to
stimulate historical and theological debate. From the canonical
materials we explore the prediction of a Virgin Birth, her
relationship to her cousin Elizabeth (the mother of John the
Baptist), questions of her “perpetual virginity,” her understanding
of Jesus’ mission, and her life following the Crucifixion. We then
turn to the development of “Mariology”: accounts of her
childhood; the doctrines of the Immaculate Conception and
Assumption of the Virgin; her roles as new Eve, Mediatrix, Bride
of Christ, and Queen of Heaven; as well as her reception in pagan,
Jewish, and Islamic writings; and her current role in Orthodox,
Protestant, and Catholic thought. We end with observations on the
increasingly common phenomenon of Marian apparitions,
including those at Lourdes, Fatima, Medjugorje, and Conyers,
Sound quality is very good. This lecture was heard through iTunes on Bose Speakers on a PC. We understood what Professor Levine said without any problem. Her diction was distinct enough for our ears. This was helpful. This lecture was on The Virgin Mary.
The Professor speaks to so many dimensions and stories of Mary including the Virgin birth. She is the mother of God, how the spirit of God overshadows the birth of God. She speaks too of how the spirit of God overshadows the births of others in the Bible. In taking the many aspects of the Mary story, she touches on the secular aspect of Mary even being considered by some as the single mother. Was it not a fear of Joseph’s that he would be shamed that Mary was pregnant and he was not the father. Yet he married her anyway. He has been credited as a good man and a dream told him so for he was urged through a dream to remain with Mary. This was a great comfort to him, the dream. But I am getting ahead of the lecture for that is to come in the next one.
Professor Amy-Jill Levine offers outside reading in her Course Guidebook. I listened to the streaming media version of the lectures to begin with and it is accompanied with a Course Guidebook in PDF version. There is a biographic section on Doctor Levine in the Guidebook. As an example of notes, this from the notes on the section on The Virgin Mary in the Guidebook:
(Regarding The Magnificat, the notes read…)
Immediately after Gabriel tells her of Elizabeth’s pregnancy, Mary
responds: “Behold, I am the slave (Gk: doule) of the Lord; let it be
to me according to your word” (Luke 1:36–38).
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1. Translations of “handmaid” are more genteel than Luke’s
Greek (see also 1:48).
2. Mary “went with haste into the hill country” to visit Elizabeth
(1:39). Some interpreters suggest that she needed Elizabeth’s
support given her state of unwed pregnancy.
B. Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit, greets her: “Blessed are you
among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb” (1:42), and
Mary replies with the “Magnificat,” Luke 1:46–55, a hymn named
for the Latin first word.
- The hymn echoes Hannah’s song in 1 Sam. 2:1–10…
Here I want to provide the Study Guide notes to Peter for your edification. But know too that the Magi are covered in this set of lectures. I cannot cover all the lectures in my commentary on Professor Amy-Jill Levine’s work as Lecturer. It is neither my intent nor purpose. But one does through this review get a real sense of her work as Lecturer. Now the notes on Peter after the notes on the Scope for the Magi from the Study Guide outlining the Scope of her lecture as the Professor sets it forth:
No Christmas scene is complete today without Mary’s husband,
Joseph; the Magi who followed the miraculous star; and the
shepherds told by angels that the messiah is born in Bethlehem.
But all these figures give rise to both historical debate and later
legend. This lecture begins with Joseph, from his brief and
enigmatic function in the Gospels to later legends of his own
perpetual virginity. We turn next to the Magi to see how these
characters, whose profession many in the ancient world would
have regarded as foolishness, came to be known as both kings and
“wise men” (and, in some medieval depictions, women as well),
and eventually to receive a set of numbers, names, and physical
descriptions. Finally, we discuss the idea that in antiquity, the
shepherds would have been expected attendants at the birth of a
god. Throughout, we address how the Gospels of Matthew and
Luke, and their later interpreters, depicted these figures to promote
their own views of history, theology, and even politics.
The transformation of a headstrong Galilean fisherman into the
first leader of the Jerusalem church and, ultimately, according to
medieval Roman Catholic teaching, the first pope, is an
astounding, inspirational, and frequently confusing story. This
lecture follows the Gospels’ presentations of Simon the son of
Jonah from his fishing business in Capernaum and possible
association with John the Baptist to his role as leader of the
Twelve (disciples) and leader of the church. Scenes addressed
include his call, his being given the nickname “Peter” (i.e.,
“Rocky”), his denial of Jesus, and his restoration as witness to the
Resurrection. We next investigate his role in the early church,
including his struggles with the Jewish authorities in Jerusalem, as
well as with Paul; his conversion of Cornelius; and his role in the
Jerusalem Council. Finally, we address his post-canonical fate,
including legends of his crucifixion during Nero’s persecution.
At this point I began viewing DVD disks and in so doing watched Professor Levine in the flesh as it were standing in a tailored violet suit speaking at a lectern. It is a dignified and sophisticated look. Her appearance and dress is appropriate, as it is in the Peter lecture where she wears a lovely peach pant suit. My intent is not to say her fashion statement as a woman is paramount, though let us not overlook her good taste which plays out in her demeanor, if I may say so. Her way of speaking has emphasis both through facial expression and body language, so she is not stiff as a lecturer. She has panache. The lectern does not hide her body nor her dress. You can see what the Professor looks like in the DVD unlike the audio version only in the streaming media version. The DVD set costs more money.
She tells us about what children over look in the travels of the Magi, and it is a sophisticated lecture she gives. I cannot write notes on all these lectures, nor go into great detail even on so favorite a subject as The Magi or even Peter, as I wish I could. This article would be just too long. But I am going to go ahead and view the DVD, listening to the Professor. Suffice it to say she has much to say of value and interest, and she says it all well. Her body language speaks of sincerity and honesty in value system and she as scholar holds depth of knowledge of subject. How can one know this? I think if you choose the DVD you will agree, she appears to know of what she speaks. Her credentials also tell of her excellent background in her study of the Bible and New Testament. Previously, I’d said she was not offering her lecture in the manner of the Sunday school lesson as I knew it. I thought this good, for she was going beyond it and providing more perspective and a different approach. In her lesson on Peter she was closer to the Sunday school lesson as I knew it, even from my time in the seminary, The School for Deacons now in Berkeley, California. And when I say the Sunday school lesson I also mean in Bible study at my Church and places like Churches elsewhere where I have attended lesson giving. Listeners won’t be disappointed with Professor Levine this time in this Lesson or in other Lessons that are so content rich.
I think it important to indicate how Christian is this lesson of Peter, how miraculous is the “tale,” and how true to the Bible in my opinion is her lesson. I am just delighted as listener to have the opportunity to hear this lesson taught again so well that I am delighted with the kind of joy she transmits with her lecture—a kind of enthusiasm for the references given in the very translations and specifics of the different references and narrative itself as given by the Books of the New Testament. This takes real skill, to my way of thinking as a student. (I want to add that Professor Amy-Jill Levine is an Orthodox Jew. She instructs Christian students at Vanderbilt University in preparation for Christian ministry.) In this lesson about Peter I also listened to her remarks on Acts.
In this my last review of two of the 24 lectures, again I quote from the Study Guide. I do not go further in my review of other lectures. These reviews are enough to give readers a flavor of Professor Amy-Jill Levine at work.
Pharisees and Sadducees
Members of these two Jewish movements, prominent in the first
century, as well as in the Gospel texts, typically serve as foils to, if
not enemies of, Jesus and his followers. This lecture introduces the
two movements by reconstructing their beliefs and practices on the
basis of the New Testament (both the Gospels and Paul, who
identifies himself as a Pharisee), the writings of the historian
Josephus, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and rabbinic literature. We next
turn to the rivalry between these groups and those who followed
Jesus of Nazareth to seek both the sources of disagreement
between them and the possible explanations for the Gospels’
sometimes strident polemic. We conclude with observations on
individual Sadducees and Pharisees, with a particular focus on
Paul’s Pharisaic teacher, Gamaliel, who appears in the Acts of the
Apostles, and Hillel, often viewed as a Pharisee and seen as
proclaiming a message similar to that of Jesus.
Like the Pharisees and Sadducees, the Herodian family also
receives generally negative treatment in the New Testament.
Herod the Great, made king by Rome over Palestine and, thus,
replacing the Hasmonean (Maccabean) dynasty, appears in the
Gospel of Matthew as a new pharaoh who orders the “slaughter of
the innocents”; Jesus is, in turn, the new Moses who escapes death.
Herod Antipas, one of Herod’s few sons to survive his father’s
murderous designs, became tetrarch of the Galilee; in the Gospels,
John the Baptist condemns Antipas for marrying his brother’s
wife, and Antipas beheads the Baptist to fulfill a promise made to
his dancing daughter (named Salome in later tradition). Herod
Agrippa I, appointed king over Judea by Caligula, executed the
Apostle James. His own death is dramatically described by both
Luke and Josephus. Agrippa I’s children, Herod Agrippa II and his
sister, Berenice, appear in Acts as conversing with Paul. This
lecture provides background information about the family and
explains how and why they appear in both the New Testament
There is little doubt in my mind after listening to the streaming audio and now the DVD video lessons that the DVD video lessons are the superior of the two. They are the superior of the two in my opinion because they are more engaging. I enjoy seeing Professor Levine in “action.” By action I mean seeing her facial expression, her gestures, and her body language speak as does her speaking inflection and manner.
In the lecture on the Pharisees, an excellent statement of history and comparison of texts of history and the Bible, and in the Lecture on Herodias especially, the sense of perspective occasionally driven by irony is brought home well. As said before, there is not enough room for me on the pages of this report to say all there is to say. And I know I have not said enough about her statements on the Bible itself. But I do want to remark on her end statement on the Lecture on Herodias without spoiling the language of how she says it for that would be unfair to the DVD watcher. Suffice it to say it is a statement on power and greed, a theme throughout the section that is so true of the dictator and of the governing nature of the governing world in which the Jews and Christians lived at the time. I think the way she tells of this historic feature of governance in general is done in a surprising way that is near painless and woven so well into the Bible and the texts of history that we find ourselves understanding that the Bible is a book of history. She gives us the taste of the times. The lecture does have much to offer about how life was lived and how people lived their lives in the higher sense of the governing class and their values of living lives at the time. It spills into the nature of lives lived throughout history by humans even to today.
For those of us surprised by this fact, as I remain today surprised, this truism is part of the truth of the Bible itself and of history and the human condition. It is history that illumines the Bible text as much as anything, and that is a kind of irony in her lecture as they work hand in glove. Professor Levine’s lecture is relevant to the way our lives are lived today.
One proof is the chill one gets at the danger and evil of the horror of the events of history as she casts that history. Was there not a story of 72 people killed in Nigeria by a bomb blast in a town reported in today’s newspaper? Monstrosity of event is not yesterday’s event of history alone.
Again, these two lectures are a brilliant set by Professor Amy-Jill Levine. Top marks to her for her scholarly knowledge and skill of presentation and delivery. Be prepared, by the way, for know this is not run-of-the-mill content. If you want that, choose another set of lectures. Choose another 24 lectures, in fact. Regarding these two, choose others if you want the norm and I don’t mean because of the horror, but because of the history and the irony, and the thought. But I mean mostly choose these lectures for the uniqueness of approach and point of view. Without going the full 24 lectures, it is apparent Professor Levine sheds profound and fascinating light on her subject of Great Figures of the New Testament that will fascinate the viewer or listener; I say viewer or listener for such is a matter of depending on the media you choose: DVD for sight and sound, or streaming media for sound alone.
A final note just thought of is that figures in this story of Herodias get their come-uppance and if you ask me the Professor implies they deserved it for they were evil men and evil women. I was glad she was willing to make such judgments in her talk, and did so without any kind of hysteria of loud statement. But that was pretty much the kind of tone expected that continued the character of her delivery in the lecture throughout this particular section, one that was quite chilling in its detail and on occasion, and not so frequent occasion, even graphic for my taste. Let’s face it, worms were one of the results of sin—body parts being eaten by them. It came alive. The Professor is even handed in her lecture style and content, though engaging.
Destruction of the Temple in 70 was a terrible act, and it was reported without terrible detail, but as if from a history book. This was sufficient for my taste. It came alive.
I think in the section on Pharisees where Piety was actually spoken of with a kind of respect rather than simple distaste, giving it a different dimension of character and understanding. I cannot provide the measure of this particular area of appreciation in the lecture section on the Pharisees in this short piece regarding the section and their role in relation to Christians and within their own Jewish faith here. But that was the area of instruction spoken about in the lecture for reasons of giving perspective. An eye opening viewpoint by Professor Levine, certainly.